Recent Hamcom/Radioraft Discussion

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:48:59 +0200
From: Costas Krallis 
Subject: [WUN] HamComm problem


I am a registered user of HamComm 3.1. I use it with great success
and with an external modem on a 40 MHz 386DX computer.

Recently I bought a Pentium Pro on an Plug-and-Pray PCI bus motherboard
and noticed that the "spectrum" function of HamComm does not work, although
it still works on the 386DX. Has anybody noticed a similar problem?
I have tried running DOS 6.21 and DOS 7.1 (the one from windows) and
the problem exists with both.

Costas




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          Sat,  6 Feb 1999 14:56:31 +0100
From: "Enzio Gehrig" 
Subject: RE: [WUN] HamComm problem
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:59:11 +0100
Importance: Normal


Dear Costas:

I have experienced exactly the same problem. The spectrum function works
fine with my old
386 Compaq Contura notebook, but it does not work with my Pentium Toshiba
Satellite. To date,
I haven't been able to figure out where the problem is. I also use the Zorns
Lemma software
(version 8.8.) which also has a spectrum feature and I have the same problem
there. The Zorns
Lemma software does not work at all with the Hamcomm modem on the Toshiba
but it does work
with the old Compaq.

Can anybody else help us?

Vy 73,


Enzio Gehrig
Denia, Spain (38.50N 00.04E)
535D mod., 3030 mod., MTA, GS2-ML-1-S
PSE61, MFJ-784, Radioraft



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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:31:01 -0500
From: aj 
Subject: [WUN] RE: HamComm problem

>Dear Costas:
>
>I have experienced exactly the same problem. The spectrum function >works
>
>Can anybody else help us?
>
>Enzio Gehrig


 Nope. But I can say the same type thing happens with Universal Radio's
M1200 decoder card.Mine works fine in my DOS-5 p/c but won't work at all in
any Pentium p/c.

 Al




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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:32:25 -0500
From: "Brian A. Berard" 
Subject: [WUN] HamCom Pentium Problem


Im not sure how relevant or helpfull this will be, but at work I run a
Pentium 2. Are you guys having a problem with this platform  or just a
regular pentium?

My specific problem was with Procomm plus 2.0. It  would run on any Pentium
or lower class PC, but when I ran it on a P 2 Nadda. This drove me crazy,
so I made a boot disk with this software and went pc to pc in my office and
all ran fine with the exception of my PC.
So I thought what the heck is the differance here? Then the light flashed,
my PC was the only P 2 at the time in our office. I found another person
that had just received a new P 2 and brought  my working disc and booted up
his P-2 and poof the same problem.

Bottom line in my weak and humble opinion is that the software code was ok
for pentiums and below but not for the P-2. I suspect outdated code,
perhaps an instruction problem with it's address bus? Whatever, I suspect
we will see more of this untill the authors update their code to the newest
systems.
IMHO
Brian


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                       Brian A. Berard      
        WUN IRC #Monitor Channel Brian-PA       
        Using a Drake R-8, a JRC NRD-535D 
75 Ft Alpha Delta Sloper and M-7000 Decoder
ICom R-7000                          PRO-34 Handheld  
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          Sat,  6 Feb 1999 19:27:17 +0100
From: "Enzio Gehrig" 
Subject: RE: [WUN] HamCom Pentium Problem
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:29:56 +0100
Importance: Normal

> Im not sure how relevant or helpfull this will be, but at work I run a
> Pentium 2. Are you guys having a problem with this platform  or just a
> regular pentium?


Mine is a regular 100-MHz Pentium. I haven't tried a P2, just my old Compaq
386 on which
the software runs fine. Problem with the Compaq is, it only has a monochrome
screen...

73, Enzio



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From: "David C. Wright" 
Subject: [WUN] re: Hamcomm Problems
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:36:03 -0000

>>I have experienced exactly the same problem. The spectrum function >works
>>
>>Can anybody else help us?
>>
>>Enzio Gehrig
>
> Nope. But I can say the same type thing happens with Universal Radio's
>M1200 decoder card.Mine works fine in my DOS-5 p/c but won't work at all in
>any Pentium p/c.




Hello everyWUN,

    I ran into similar problems recently while installing a new serial port
card into my computer.  The plug and play interface was the culprit.  If
you are interested in how I worked around it, send me an email and
I'll send you the steps I went through (along with lots of trial and error).

73

----
David C. Wright
San Angelo, TX



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From: (Ralf R. Radermacher)
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 99 01:01:31 CET

On 06.02.1999 at 12:48:59, (Costas Krallis) wrote
re: [WUN] HamComm problem

> I am a registered user of HamComm 3.1. I use it with great success
> and with an external modem on a 40 MHz 386DX computer.
> 
> Recently I bought a Pentium Pro on an Plug-and-Pray PCI bus motherboard
> and noticed that the "spectrum" function of HamComm does not work, although
> it still works on the 386DX. Has anybody noticed a similar problem?


...and once we're at it:

Does anyone else have probs with Radioraft on newer machines?

Worked here on a P90 and a 6x86 166+, but stubbornly refuses to do make any
sense on a 6x86 266+. Tried everything imaginable. The program author is
aware of the prob and can say as much as that it has to do with the Cyrix
CPUs but is otherwise completely at sea about this, not last because he
doesn't have any Cyrix equipped machine to check for himself.

Anyone else with an idea?

Cheers,
Ralf



Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG                  Koeln/Cologne, Germany

RX:   EKD 300 & EKD 100 + EZ 100 RTTY demodulator/diversity unit,
      more info on request
Ant:  Rohde&Schwarz HE011, Datong AD370, GAP Titan,
      home-made active vertical 3 kHz to 100 MHz
Comp: Amiga 3000T/060/50 MHz  CV64/3D  ScanMate

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          Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:45:16 +0000
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:41:18 -0500
From: Barun Gupta 
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem


I have a registered version of RadioRaft and two PC's. One is a Cyrix
6X86 machine and the other an IBM Thinkpad. RadioRaft works fine (though
only in pure DOS) on the ThinkpAD and does not work at all on the Cyrix.
I traced my problem (the best theory that I have at the moment) to the
serial port. To resolve this hypothesis, I have just bought a serial
port card (you can get them for a few bucks at any of the online auction
places on the web). It just arrived today and I have not had a chance to
install it (this would be COM3 and COM4 on my Cyrix machine. When i do
try it out I will post my findings if there is still any interest in
this thread.


Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> 
> On 06.02.1999 at 12:48:59, (Costas Krallis) wrote
> re: [WUN] HamComm problem
> 
> > I am a registered user of HamComm 3.1. I use it with great success
> > and with an external modem on a 40 MHz 386DX computer.
> >
> > Recently I bought a Pentium Pro on an Plug-and-Pray PCI bus motherboard
> > and noticed that the "spectrum" function of HamComm does not work, although
> > it still works on the 386DX. Has anybody noticed a similar problem?
> 
> ...and once we're at it:
> 
> Does anyone else have probs with Radioraft on newer machines?
> 
> Worked here on a P90 and a 6x86 166+, but stubbornly refuses to do make any
> sense on a 6x86 266+. Tried everything imaginable. The program author is
> aware of the prob and can say as much as that it has to do with the Cyrix
> CPUs but is otherwise completely at sea about this, not last because he
> doesn't have any Cyrix equipped machine to check for himself.
> 
> Anyone else with an idea?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ralf
> 
> Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG                  Koeln/Cologne, Germany
> 
> RX:   EKD 300 & EKD 100 + EZ 100 RTTY demodulator/diversity unit,
>       more info on request
> Ant:  Rohde&Schwarz HE011, Datong AD370, GAP Titan,
>       home-made active vertical 3 kHz to 100 MHz
> Comp: Amiga 3000T/060/50 MHz  CV64/3D  ScanMate
> 
> ---

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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:26:38 +0200
From: Costas Krallis 
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamCom Pentium Problem

At 12:32 6/2/1999 -0500, "Brian A. Berard" 
wrote:

> Im not sure how relevant or helpfull this will be, but at work I 
run a
> Pentium 2. Are you guys having a problem with this platform  or 
just a
> regular pentium?


It seems all the problems are with the latest generations of
Pentium II/PPro/80686 motherboards. I like HamComm and I am 
registered
user, so I decided to keep the old computer in use, but if it fails,
I shall be unable to replace it...

Costas


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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:15:14 +0200
From: Costas Krallis 
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem
 <3.0.2.32.19990206104859.006973ac


At 01:01 7/2/1999 CET, you wrote:

> ...and once we're at it:
>
> Does anyone else have probs with Radioraft on newer machines?


Yes, my impression is that Radioraft does not lock as easily
as before and looses synchronization on fast signals (SITOR-B
100 baud etc).

Costas




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From: (Ralf R. Radermacher)
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 99 12:23:22 CET

On 06.02.1999 at 16:41:18, (Barun Gupta) wrote
re: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem

> I have just bought a serial
> port card (you can get them for a few bucks at any of the online auction
> places on the web). It just arrived today and I have not had a chance to
> install it (this would be COM3 and COM4 on my Cyrix machine. When i do
> try it out I will post my findings if there is still any interest in
> this thread.


Been there, done that...

Sad to say, I've tried it with a bunch of different serial boards and no
joy, here.

Strange enough, HamComm works with exactly the same hardware and serial
interface, even with the on-board serial interface. Makes it ever more
look like a processor-related problem.

Cheers,
Ralf


Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG                  Koeln/Cologne, Germany

RX:   EKD 300 & EKD 100 + EZ 100 RTTY demodulator/diversity unit,
      more info on request
Ant:  Rohde&Schwarz HE011, Datong AD370, GAP Titan,
      home-made active vertical 3 kHz to 100 MHz
Comp: Amiga 3000T/060/50 MHz  CV64/3D  ScanMate

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From: (Ralf R. Radermacher)
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 99 12:21:08 CET

On 07.02.1999 at 13:15:14, (Costas Krallis) wrote
re: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem

> Yes, my impression is that Radioraft does not lock as easily
> as before and looses synchronization on fast signals (SITOR-B
> 100 baud etc).


Hello Costas and all WUNers,

Now, that's interesting. I was too preoccupied with the other problem, i.e.
no function at all on my newer (266+) machine. The exact problem there is:
no consistent decoding, and in auto scan mode all signals are treated as
CIS-11/100 Bd.

But now that you say so, I have been wondering for a time if RRaft does
perform as well on my 'old' machine (166+) as it did on my 'real old'
machine, which was a P90. Come to think of it, yes, it did sync easier and
didn't fall out of sync as often as the 166+ machine. I practically can't
switch the auto-detect feature off or it will lose sync and not or only
rarely take up decoding again, unless I let it re-detect the mode in
auto-scan when it will lock for another few lines.

Have you contacted the author about this, Costas?

Cheers,
Ralf


Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG                  Koeln/Cologne, Germany

RX:   EKD 300 & EKD 100 + EZ 100 RTTY demodulator/diversity unit,
      more info on request
Ant:  Rohde&Schwarz HE011, Datong AD370, GAP Titan,
      home-made active vertical 3 kHz to 100 MHz
Comp: Amiga 3000T/060/50 MHz  CV64/3D  ScanMate

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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:12:05 +0200
From: Costas Krallis 
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem


>> Yes, my impression is that Radioraft does not lock as easily
>> as before and looses synchronization on fast signals (SITOR-B
>> 100 baud etc).

> But now that you say so, I have been wondering for a time if RRaft 
does
> perform as well on my 'old' machine (166+) as it did on my 'real 
old'
> machine, which was a P90. Come to think of it, yes, it did sync 
easier and
> didn't fall out of sync as often as the 166+ machine. I practically 
can't
> switch the auto-detect feature off or it will lose sync and not or 
only
> rarely take up decoding again, unless I let it re-detect the mode 
in
> auto-scan when it will lock for another few lines.


My view about the problems with HamComm, RadioRaft etc is the 
following:

The Plug-and-Pray PCI BIOS tries to serve more than one device on the 
same
IRQ line. To achieve this, it traps the interrupt requests and 
processes
them, by checking a number of I/O locations for a pending interrupt 
and
then passes them to the apropriate device.

Programs like HamComm depend heavily on the timing of the Interrupt 
Service
Routines and fail to function when there are long processing delays. 
The
reason is that each zero crossing of the signal causes an interrupt 
which
activates a service routine and increments a timer. This takes only a 
few
instructions of machine code. During this time new interrupts on the 
same
line are ignored (masked), but as it is a short routine no data is 
lost.

The long routines called by the BIOS increase the time the port 
cannot
accept another interrupt, so some signal cycles are lost and decoding
suffers. This theory is supported by the fact that I can observe some
activity at the low frequency end of the HamCOmm SPectrum Analysis
screen.

BTW, I use HamComm and RadioRaft with an external modem, and still 
decoding
is unreliable. This problem I describe does not happen inside a DOS-
window
of Windows-98 but with plain DOS 7.1 (I have setup my own boot menu) 
and
even with MS-DOS 6.2 booted from a floppy, so it has nothing to do 
with
Windows.

> Have you contacted the author about this, Costas?

No, I haven't done so yet, but I think Francois F6FFL is subscribed 
to
WUN and reads this exchange.

Costas




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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 09:01:44 -0500
From: aj 
Subject: [WUN] Thoughts Re Radio Raft

>BTW, I use HamComm and RadioRaft with an external modem, and still 
>decoding
>is unreliable. This problem I describe does not happen inside a DOS-
>window
>of Windows-98 but with plain DOS 7.1 (I have setup my own boot menu) 
>and
>even with MS-DOS 6.2 booted from a floppy, so it has nothing to do 
>with
>Windows.
>


 Costas,

 I noticed you use "an external modem" for your shareware pgms.What kind is it?

 I'm curious since I was just about to buy one called a "BP-2M Radio Modem"
from a company called "Tigertronics" here in the US.

 My plan was to use it,along with Radio Raft, in my older 486dx/DOS6 p/c
for searches & to sit on interesting digital trans while freeing up my
Pentium/Code3-Gold combo for other duties.

 But your post that notes "decoding is unreliable" & "even with MS-DOS 6.2
booted from a floppy" has got me re-thinking my grand plan.

 What is your over-all opinion of Radio Raft & which p/c & operating
systems seem to work best for you,Win95/98 or the older DOS versions?

 Thanks for your advice.I also c/c'd this post to the group as I thought
others may benifit from your observations.

 Al



 al dudley  ... 
   wash dc metro area , usa
  535d,r1000,frg7,code3g,m1200


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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:35:57 +0200
From: Costas Krallis 
Subject: [WUN] Re: Thoughts Re Radio Raft


At 09:01 7/2/1999 -0500, aj wrote:

> I noticed you use "an external modem" for your shareware pgms. What
> kind is it?


It is a Maplin TU-1000, a british kit I built in 1988 and later
added inside a HamComm type interface to support the spectrum and
scope functions. The only modifications to the initial kits are
replacement of the frequency control trimmers with 10-turn ones
and the installation of a PTT control (a power darlingron control-
led from the RTS line).

> My plan was to use it,along with Radio Raft, in my older 486dx/DOS6
> p/c for searches & to sit on interesting digital trans while 
> freeing up my Pentium/Code3-Gold combo for other duties.

> But your post that notes "decoding is unreliable" & "even with MS-
> DOS 6.2 booted from a floppy" has got me re-thinking my grand plan.

RadioRaft and HamComm work perfectly with the old 386DX/40 computer 
and DOS 6.2 and I shall keep it this way. I also use my setup for
2 way RTTY contacts.

The problem is with the nice fast Pentium I bought last month.

> What is your over-all opinion of Radio Raft & which p/c & operating
> systems seem to work best for you,Win95/98 or the older DOS 
> versions?

RadioRaft is an excellent program, the main drawback being that it
does not decode (yet) GMDSS packets. BTW, I have never used any of
these programs for Morse decoding.

> Thanks for your advice.I also c/c'd this post to the group as I
> thought others may benifit from your observations.


Best 73

Costas



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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:54:41 -0700
From: "Rodney E. Mullins" 
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem


There is a known problem with the serial port timing with some Cyrix CPUs.
I had the same problem when using one of my favorite scanner-controlling
programs when I switched to the Cyrix processor.  Since I had used the same
program and radio setup before switching to the Cyrix system, I knew that
the new system was to blame.  I found a program called PIPELOOP.EXE, and
all my problems vanished.  Do a search for it, or I can send it to
interested individuals via attachment.  Worked for me!

Rodney



At 09:41 PM 2/6/99 -0500, Barun Gupta wrote:
>I have a registered version of RadioRaft and two PC's. One is a Cyrix
>6X86 machine and the other an IBM Thinkpad. RadioRaft works fine (though
>only in pure DOS) on the ThinkpAD and does not work at all on the Cyrix.
>I traced my problem (the best theory that I have at the moment) to the
>serial port. To resolve this hypothesis, I have just bought a serial
>port card (you can get them for a few bucks at any of the online auction
>places on the web). It just arrived today and I have not had a chance to
>install it (this would be COM3 and COM4 on my Cyrix machine. When i do
>try it out I will post my findings if there is still any interest in
>this thread.
>
>Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
>> 
>> On 06.02.1999 at 12:48:59, (Costas Krallis) wrote
>> re: [WUN] HamComm problem
>> 
>> > I am a registered user of HamComm 3.1. I use it with great success
>> > and with an external modem on a 40 MHz 386DX computer.
>> >
>> > Recently I bought a Pentium Pro on an Plug-and-Pray PCI bus motherboard
>> > and noticed that the "spectrum" function of HamComm does not work,
although
>> > it still works on the 386DX. Has anybody noticed a similar problem?
>> 
>> ...and once we're at it:
>> 
>> Does anyone else have probs with Radioraft on newer machines?
>> 
>> Worked here on a P90 and a 6x86 166+, but stubbornly refuses to do make any
>> sense on a 6x86 266+. Tried everything imaginable. The program author is
>> aware of the prob and can say as much as that it has to do with the Cyrix
>> CPUs but is otherwise completely at sea about this, not last because he
>> doesn't have any Cyrix equipped machine to check for himself.
>> 
>> Anyone else with an idea?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
>> 
>> Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG                  Koeln/Cologne, Germany
>> 
>> RX:   EKD 300 & EKD 100 + EZ 100 RTTY demodulator/diversity unit,
>>       more info on request
>> Ant:  Rohde&Schwarz HE011, Datong AD370, GAP Titan,
>>       home-made active vertical 3 kHz to 100 MHz
>> Comp: Amiga 3000T/060/50 MHz  CV64/3D  ScanMate
>> 
>> ---
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From: "Enzio Gehrig" 
To: "Wun" 
Subject: [WUN] Hamcomm Problem
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:14:33 +0100


Hi everyWUN,

thanks to all you folks who responded to my problem. I haven't had the time
to read all of your mails but it seems that some of you had valid points. I
will get back personally to those folks who made suggestions on how to
resolve the problem. Thanks again.

Vy 73,


Enzio Gehrig
Denia, Spain (38.50N 00.04E)
535D mod., 3030 mod., MTA, GS2-ML-1-S
PSE61, MFJ-784, Radioraft



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From: "Kees Miedema" 
To: 
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:01:37 +0100

-----Original Message-----
From: Rodney E. Mullins
Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem


>There is a known problem with the serial port timing with some Cyrix CPUs.
>I had the same problem when using one of my favorite scanner-controlling
>programs when I switched to the Cyrix processor.


Strange enough, Pipeloop.exe is (according to IBM/Cyrix) written to loop a
certain intruction (don't know wich one exactly) for some Clipper based
executables...
Clipper is some database kind of software...

Kees Miedema



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From: (Ralf R. Radermacher)
Subject: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 99 23:13:50 CET
To: wun@qth.net

On 07.02.1999 at 17:12:05, (Costas Krallis) wrote
re: Re: [WUN] HamComm problem

> BTW, I use HamComm and RadioRaft with an external modem, and still 
> decoding
> is unreliable.


Quite the same here. I have RRaft hooked up to the EZ 100.

Also tried the 'timeloop.exe' fix suggested elsewhere, today, but no joy.

I have eventually thrown out the Cyrix 166+ and replaced it by an old P90,
keeping the main board and everything else. All is working fine again. So,
if any more proof was needed, we clearly have a processor problem, here.

BTW, Costas, I had contacted Francois about my probs, a while ago, and have
been told that maybe it will be solved through an update to the next
version due sometime in spring of '99. Can't wait for something to decode
DSC. :-)


Cheers,
Ralf

Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG                  Koeln/Cologne, Germany

RX:   EKD 300 & EKD 100 + EZ 100 RTTY demodulator/diversity unit,
      more info on request
Ant:  Rohde&Schwarz HE011, Datong AD370, GAP Titan,
      home-made active vertical 3 kHz to 100 MHz
Comp: Amiga 3000T/060/50 MHz  CV64/3D  ScanMate

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:21:53 -0500 From: aj Subject: [WUN] Info Re The AEA DSP-232 Decoder Group, I have an opportunity to p/u one of these units.I know that AEA was bought out (or whatever) by Timewave & also that these units were not well received.Does anyone have any info,good or bad,about these decoders?Approx worth?Are they stand-alone or paired with a p/c? Apparently there's a DSP-2232 model & a DSP-232 model.I'm talking about the DSP-232 model. Thanks, Al al dudley ... wash dc metro area , usa 535d,r1000,frg7 code3gold,m1200 decoders --- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:04:38 -0500 From: "Albert P. Belle Isle" Subject: Re: [WUN] Info Re The AEA DSP-232 Decoder At 11:21 AM 2/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >Group, > > I have an opportunity to p/u one of these units.I know that AEA was bought >out (or whatever) by Timewave & also that these units were not well >received.Does anyone have any info,good or bad,about these decoders?Approx >worth?Are they stand-alone or paired with a p/c? >Apparently there's a DSP-2232 model & a DSP-232 model.I'm talking about the >DSP-232 model. > > Thanks, > Al > > Al: If your opportunity is a private sale, you may be interested in Time-wave's $100 close-out on this never-completed product at http://www.timewave.com/dsp232respec.html This page includes a "caveat emptor" notice that says " Important Note: The original DSP-232 data sheet is shown below. Several of the features described in the data sheet either do not function properly or were never implemented in the production units. RTTY, AMTOR, 1200 baud PACKET (without MailDrop), and CW modes do work. PACTOR, Satellite, MailDrop, SIAM, 9600 baud packet, WeFAX and Gateway features do not function properly. If you are a RTTY operator and like to connect to your local 1200 baud DX Cluster, this DSP-232 will meet your needs. Timewave does not plan to fix the modes that do not work." Albert P. BELLE ISLE Cerberus Systems, Inc. ================================================ ENCRYPTION SOFTWARE with Forensic Software Countermeasures http://www.cerberus-sys.com/~infosec/ ================================================ --- From: "Ted Hay" Subject: Re: [WUN] Info Re The AEA DSP-232 Decoder Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:22:15 -0500 Timewave has picked up the AEA decoders. The DSP 232 was never properly developed and believe Timewave is dumping them and do not plan to support it. The DSP 2232 is a different decoder which had a lot of satellite modems. Ted From: aj Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 11:23 AM Subject: [WUN] Info Re The AEA DSP-232 Decoder >Group, > > I have an opportunity to p/u one of these units.I know that AEA was bought >out (or whatever) by Timewave & also that these units were not well >received.Does anyone have any info,good or bad,about these decoders?Approx >worth?Are they stand-alone or paired with a p/c? >Apparently there's a DSP-2232 model & a DSP-232 model.I'm talking about the >DSP-232 model. > > Thanks, > Al > > > al dudley ... > wash dc metro area , usa > 535d,r1000,frg7 > code3gold,m1200 decoders > > > >--- > --- Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:21:24 -0500 From: aj Subject: [WUN] Re The AEA DSP-232 Decoder Thanks to all who wrote about the DSP-232.I never had much experience with AEA's product except a WeFax pgm a long time ago.When looking for info about the DSP-232 I discovered a sad story of an expensive piece of hardware never brought to pass.These things cost hundred's of dollars & never worked! No wonder AEA went bust. Al al dudley ... wash dc metro area , usa 535d,r1000,frg7 code3gold,m1200 decoders ---
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